#413 Harry Gray: The Over-Intellectualization of Health
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Speaker 1:It was 18,000 studies in 20 '25 or 18,000 studies, and forty two point seven percent of Americans are obese. If we're studying this obesity epidemic with such precision, with all these different angles that we're taking to figure out what's wrong, it doesn't really seem like we're making any progress in terms of implementing what we're learning in these studies. It kinda led me to believe that we're overcomplicating health. Health is actually just meant to be very simple. It's not meant to be this thing that has all these hacks, all these different shortcuts, all these different cheat codes.
Speaker 1:Health is incredibly simple. Fuel your body with rest, real food, clean environments, and use it for purpose. We're not really studying health anymore. We're just studying disease. We've gotten to a point now where it almost seems like a charade.
Speaker 1:Alright. Welcome back to another episode of the Meat Mafia podcast. I'm your cohost, Harry Gray. And today, I am solo. I'm feeling a little bit naked here.
Speaker 1:No Brett, no guests. I've only I've only ever done this one other time. This was episode man, this was a while back. It was episode two twenty seven. I did a solo podcast from my closet.
Speaker 1:Brett and I were living together at the time. I was recording out of this janky microphone setup in my closet. Now we've got a nice studio setup here. I've got Jimmy behind the camera. It's just me and him today.
Speaker 1:So this is gonna be quite the rip. I'm super excited because that episode two twenty seven, the solo rip that I did in my closet, actually was the most popular episode we've ever done. It's the most downloaded episode that we've ever recorded, and it was literally me just doing a practical guide to the carnivore diet. It was super simple, but I just gave these basic tips on how to eat a carnivore diet and how to do it in a way that, isn't crazy restrictive, is super simple, and can just be a tool. So I think for most people, you know, they think about diet, they start to make it part of their identity.
Speaker 1:And of one the things that we talk a lot about on the show is just making these things tools that you can use to just slowly implement and start to improve your health over time, experiment, and not really fall down any dogmatic path where, you know, you get trapped into diet culture, which, you know, can be can be crazy. But on today's episode, I'm gonna be talking about an essay that I wrote. So I wrote an essay last week called the over intellect over man, I can't even say it. The over intellectualization of health. And for me, this was such a fun process in writing this because it's something that's been on my heart for a long time.
Speaker 1:Something that I've I've felt like I've needed to say, but haven't been able to really put it all on paper. So I ended up writing a a little piece, called the over intellectual over intellectualization of health. If I have to say that one more time, this podcast might not get done. But it was 18,000 studies in 2025. There were 18,000 studies, and forty two point seven percent of Americans are obese.
Speaker 1:And that just gave me some pause. I had to stop there and just think a bit about, if we're studying this obesity epidemic with such precision, with, you know, all these different angles that we're taking to figure out what's wrong, it doesn't really seem like we're making any progress in terms of implementing what we're learning in these studies. And it kinda led me to believe that we're over complicating health, and health is actually just meant to be very simple. It's not meant to be this thing that has all these hacks, all these different shortcuts, all these different cheat codes. Health is incredibly simple, turns out.
Speaker 1:Fuel your body with rest, real food, clean environments, and use it for purpose and joy. And, you know, I think that we're not really studying health anymore. We're just studying disease. And I and I think that we've gotten to a point now where it almost seems like a charade. It seems like this is just part of whether conscious of it or not.
Speaker 1:And I I I think we're just kind of willfully unconscious of it, but we're just numb to this charade, this this theater that we're watching where it's, you know, ping pong versions of, you know, sugar's bad for you, sugar's good for you, do this, do that. It just it seems distracting to the overall message that health is simple. So, in that article, I ended up kinda distilling health down to six simple pillars, rest, fuel movement, reducing toxins, community, and then an inside out health approach. So starting with spirituality, actually. So having some elements of spiritual health and, you know, diving into spiritual disciplines, we've talked about that on the podcast before.
Speaker 1:But I think it's incredibly overlooked. I know, you know, at certain points of my life, I've absolutely overlooked it. And I think it's critical. And, you know, you can see that in the Blue Zone studies that one of the common threads is that these different subsets of very healthy centenarian communities, they've all lived you know, they live to a 100 and they all have some sort of spiritual practice. So just wanna call that out.
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Speaker 1:Alright. Let's get into it. Oh, my my laptop just went all over the place. Alright. Here we go.
Speaker 1:So, you know, I I was digging into this topic of just over intellectualizing health, and there was this incredible study. It's called the epidemiology of obesity, a big picture. And I just wanna read through this intro because I think it just captures what I'm talking about in such a a perfect way. It really it really sets the stage here. So the epidemic of overweight actually, I'm gonna give a little shout out here to the authors as well just so I'm not, you know, completely butchering their work.
Speaker 1:So this is you can find this on PubMed. It's Adela Hrubby and Frank Hugh. Sorry. I just completely butchered their last names, but, go find that on PubMed. Alright.
Speaker 1:Here we go. The intro, to their paper. The epidemic of overweight and obesity presents a major challenge to chronic disease prevention and health across the life course around the world. Fueled by economic growth, industrialization, mechanized transport, urbanization, and increasing sedentary lifestyle, and a nutritional transition to processed foods and high calorie diets over the last thirty years, many countries have witnessed the prevalence of obesity in its citizens double and even quadruple. Rising prevalence of childhood obesity in particular forbodes a staggering burden of disease in individuals and health care systems in the decades to come.
Speaker 1:A complex multifactorial disease with genetic, behavioral, socioeconomic, and environmental origins. Obesity raises risk of debilitating morbidity and mortality. Relying primarily on epidemiologic evidence published within the last decade, the non exhaustive review discusses the extent of the obesity epidemics, its risks known and novel and economic impact across the world. And then it continues to say, obesity is a complex, multifactorial, and largely preventable disease affecting along along with overweight, over a third of the world's population today. If secular trends continue by 02/1930, an estimated thirty eight percent of the world's population, adult population, will be overweight and another twenty percent will be obese.
Speaker 1:In The USA, the most dire projections based on earlier secular trends point to over eighty five percent of adults being overweight or obese by 02/1930. I'm gonna pause there. Over eighty five percent, this is them projecting this, over eighty five percent of adults being overweight or obese by 2030. That's insane. That is insane.
Speaker 1:Put a pin in that one. While growth trends in overall obesity in most developed countries seem to have leveled off, morbid obesity in many other countries continue to climb. I got a little hold on. Give me one sec. Some technological issues over here.
Speaker 1:Where were we? Countries continue to climb, including among children. In addition, obesity prevalence in developing countries continues to trend upwards toward US levels. Alright. The TLDR on that is summarized in that eighty five percent of adults eighty five percent of adults in The US are trending in 2030 to be obese or oh, sorry, overweight or obese.
Speaker 1:That to me is so alarming. And the fact that we're spending as much money as we are on this problem and as much time and resources from a academic standpoint, it's to me, it seems like we've missed the plot. We've we've totally lost the plot. And so I wanna kinda just ground us in that thought that, you know, it's great that we're studying this problem. It's great that we're trying to figure out all the different angles to address it or, you know, I don't even know where these 18,000 plus studies are actually going towards.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they're studying. But, if you just look at the data, you know, in 1970, there were about a 150 studies out there about obesity. And or in that year, there were a 150 studies done. Twelve percent of people were obese. So much smaller than, excuse me, today's numbers.
Speaker 1:And then you look at where we're at today, 18,000 plus studies, and we're at forty two point seven percent obesity rate, which honestly feels it that's a staggering number. Hard to even fathom that we're that we're there. And I think that my article really called out the fact that we are putting so much horsepower, so much intellectual capacity behind this problem, and we're getting just zero results. I mean, it it to me, it just it's amazing. So once I wrote this paper, I was like, what what else can I do to kind of quantify this disconnect?
Speaker 1:And so I came up with a little a ratio. You know, love a good ratio, don't you? Just put a little math behind it. So I came up with this number of obesity studies to obesity prevalence ratio. So we're gonna call this the SOAR ratio or or, you know, the obesity studies divided by obesity prevalence.
Speaker 1:This is just super we're we're getting technical out here on the Meat Mafia podcast. But, you know, what we see on in that period from 1970 to 2025 is just this balloon in the amount of just people focused on trying to solve this problem from an academic standpoint. And then it just seems like like, I'm looking at this number go from twelve percent to forty two percent. And to me, it's like, why even bother studying it if you're not gonna at least stop the momentum of this obesity epidemic somewhat? And so I think this this number is obviously like, I'll be the first one to self criticize here.
Speaker 1:This is not this is not a great metric in terms of just approaching this from, like, a data scientist perspective. There's a a large number of of things that you could point to. You know? I think that it's kind of it's kind of a dumb but perfect number, or dumb but perfect metric, this SOAR. Because, you know, to me, it really it kind of quantifies, our over quantification, a bit.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, we've seen here that, you know, if I were to put my data scientist hat on, I would tear this I would tear this number apart. You know, I can hear critics saying, Harrison, there's no causal link between these studies in obesity or, you know, those variable studies are you know, there's studies over prevalence are totally arbitrary. Fair points. I get it. I think I I'm setting this up, that way.
Speaker 1:But here's why the SOAR works. It's not trying to be a lab report. It's not try it's it's a wake up call. Not trying to be a lab report. That jumped from twelve point five percent, in 1917 or 1970, sorry, to forty four hundred and thirty two point two seven in 2025 screams one thing our scientific community is so busy studying obesity, churning out so many papers that we just lost sight of actually fixing the problem.
Speaker 1:We're just, you know, kinda coasting. You know, it almost it just feels like we're, you know, self aggrandizing, you know, trying to prove that we understand the problem more and, you know, really get like a little badge of honor from our academic institution as opposed to actually fixing the problem. And I think this number, it just yeah. To me, it's just it's dumb, simple, and there's flaws in in in the approach, but it illustrates that point. And I think the source power is in its simplicity.
Speaker 1:It shows the disconnect. You know? We've got brilliant minds, millions of dollars, and forty two point seven percent of us are still obese. It's not or, you know, it's it's not about precision. To me, it's it's about the truth.
Speaker 1:And so we're stuck in a cycle of, you know, studying instead of acting, and I think that this metric kind of exposes that a little bit. And I just wanna press in on this idea that this is kind of this grandiose theater because, you know, I think that I'm not trying to get too conspiratorial here, but I do just wanna, like, unplug and plug the computer back in for a second because I feel like we're just kinda, like, letting this happen. And it's important to just refocus a little bit. You know, the this the grand theater analogy to me is is so good. It's like we're we're we're in this theater, this chaotic stage of researchers waving around these studies like props.
Speaker 1:One shouts, you know, sugar's fine. And then, you know, it's poison and big food. The cunning director director just grins from the wings of the stage. They're bankrolling this mess. You know, they're they're behind the scenes just happy that there's no clear conclusion, that there's no direction, that there's no decision, and that people are are kinda just handing over their fate a bit.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, the audience, you, me, doctors, policymakers just sit paralyzed waiting for clarity that never comes. So I think that for us, just acknowledging that there's a bit of theater going on, there's a bit of this this feeling that, we're kinda watching from the sidelines, wondering, you know, like, when is the change actually gonna happen? I have to go a sip of water here. When is the change actually gonna happen? And so, you know, Big Foods marketing muscle has done a great job with just, keeping this charade going.
Speaker 1:You know, they spend $14,000,000,000 a year on ads in The US alone, with 80% of those pushing fast food, sugary drinks, etcetera. Coca Cola dropped 327,000,000 on Coke ads in 2022. You know, they're really trying to create this, you know, this illusion around and granted, these are marketing ads. You know, these are these are not necessarily just studies, but, you know, it's it's contributing to the the minutiae. You know, there's they're they're taking advantage of kind of this stage that is in front of them where, you know, they're able to to prey on emotions.
Speaker 1:And, you know, as, you know, these confusing studies get released, it just kind of keeps people in this little gridlock. And so, you know, I think that the lobbying is also a big part of it. You've got the relentless lobbying budget, $170,000,000 in 2023 from the food sector going into lobbying just just, you know, to gain political influence. That's crazy. Then we're just spending billions of dollars on this academic research.
Speaker 1:You know, this this theater, this stage, you know, we've got academia getting spending $9,200,000,000, you know, estimated $9,200,000,000 on these studies. You know, we're just assuming $500,000 per study, 18,000 studies or 15,000 studies done in 2020, 18,000 projected in 2025. That's insane. We're like, what's go what's going on there? Doesn't that just feel like doesn't that just feel like we're kinda missing the mark on on how we're we're approaching this problem?
Speaker 1:And so, you know, I think that there's just a just a tragic amount of waste. I think it's, you know, billions and billions of dollars just being kinda lit on fire when the solution is, like, get outside, walk, move, pull out the toxins, pull out the processed foods. And so, like, what do we need to study more is kinda my question. In this public paralysis, you know, there's this victimhood. You know, the victims are us.
Speaker 1:We're paralyzed by these conflicting studies, and, you know, these ads are targeting our kids. You know, we know what to eat. We know we know we need to be eating real food to move forward. But big foods got to have their hooks in us. And, the SOAR, this, this made up metric that I, that I've come up with is here to end that.
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, we're missing the mark. You know, these studies are a simple tool and big foods tool belt, in my opinion. If there has been no noticeable change in policy, if the outcomes are are continuing to get worse, I just from 1970 to 2025, the outcomes are just getting worse and we're studying the problem more. I just think it's time to to probably wake up here. And so, yeah, that's what I'm gonna try to try to wake up the people, you know, get the people going a little bit.
Speaker 1:And so I think reclaiming our health starts with just a simple approach of these six pillars, rest, fuel, movement, reducing toxins, community, and then that inside out health approach that we talked about. This is it's almost it almost feels dumb to explain some of this. And I'm sorry if that comes across as heavy handed, but I just I love the simplicity. I love the basics. I think the basics are where most people need to focus, the consistency, just pouring into the right habits.
Speaker 1:You know, we're talking about a systemic societal shift here. And this solution that I've laid out, it it's it's something that's near and dear to me because I think it follows falls in lines with my beliefs, which is that rest is at the start of all of this and that, we you don't need a scientific study to tell us to rest and that operating from a place of restfulness gives us more capacity to make some of these changes. Then we move into fueling. You know, if we're just getting 90% of our foods from just real whole foods, cutting out different people, all the processed foods, all the different chains in our food system. If we're just cutting those out, we are making leaps.
Speaker 1:We are making massive strides. These are kind of the macro level shifts to tectonics moving that I think, you know, if we got some of these things set in motion where people were focused on getting their hands on whole foods instead of, these highly processed foods, we'd be in a much better place and easier said than done. You know, going back to that study that I talked about, there's obviously socioeconomic factors here, but, you know, nothing stopping anyone from going out and walking, which is the next, you know, movement component here is, you know, just getting getting your steps in. Again, just incredibly simple, but harder to implement. But if we're prioritizing and just trying to flip this script that, you know, we're watching this theater happening, it's gonna take like a ground up individualistic movement, cultural movement that happens where people are unwilling and and just not wanting to participate in the sickness and disease, perpetuation.
Speaker 1:So, you know, after movement reducing toxins, one of the things that I like to talk about is just making simple changes that you don't have to think about ever again. So, you know, in a matter of twenty minutes, you can order a water filter, a shower filter, and an air filter, and immediately improve the health of your environment tenfold. That's simple. Then you get rid of some plastics in your your house and you start making some of these small changes over time. Doesn't all need to happen at once.
Speaker 1:And lo and behold, you start eliminating some of these toxins and your body starts functioning better, start feeling better. These are the types of wins that, you know, keep you out of the hospital, keep you healthy. Then you start leaning into a community, a group of people that you know are also moving in the same direction that you are. You know, you have other people who are pushing you, you know, they wanna share meals together, they wanna talk about their purpose, what they're doing with their lives, the things that they're building, the things that they're interested in. You know, I think that community can just be such a source of that change or that, solidification of who you're becoming.
Speaker 1:And, you know, fitness communities, you know, they're all over the world. We're here in Austin, Texas here, at the Meat Mafia and at Noble. And, there's just an endless amount of fitness groups. Potentially too much depending on who you ask, but I don't think there's too much of this stuff. I think it's incredible, that people are connecting over community.
Speaker 1:It builds accountability. It's it actually sustains the wellness. It's it's an incredible practice. So, know, you I think that if you can just get in that reflex of making it communal, making it something where you're sharing it with other people, just kinda, like, puts you on autopilot. I mean, you don't you don't have to really think much about it.
Speaker 1:You know, it's kinda like the thing. You know, you you are the average is the most cliche thing I'll ever say. You are the average of the five people that you spend time with, but it's true. And, you know, if you do that from a health perspective, things are gonna work out. And then kind of the last component of this six pillar solution is the inside out health approach.
Speaker 1:This is just pointing to something that I think we've talked about we talked about on the Ben Greenfield podcast. You know, there's this conflicting narrative in the health community around biohacking and over indexing to all these quantifiable little, metrics that we're tracking, which I think is fantastic. But I also think that you can lose the forest through the trees and you you start to over index your health and you really start to lose a lot of the purpose as to why you're getting healthy or why you started to, you know, implement some of these changes to begin with. And so I think that having a faith forward approach to your health where you're prioritizing a spiritual practice, prioritizing community, building your relationship with God, I think that these are things that really span no limits in terms of the the change that they can make. And so I just wanna, you know, pause here and provide a a second framework in terms of how to implement some of these changes because all of that stuff that I just espoused and talked about is great.
Speaker 1:And I think that, you know, there's a lot to be gained from implementing them, but it's super overwhelming. No one who's getting off the couch is gonna be able to implement all that at once. And that's like that's not the expectation. First off, if you're listening to this, the expectation is slowly and gradually starting to implement some changes. So, you know, this is what I would say just from a, you know, a health.
Speaker 1:This is the health triad, a simple framework, three steps or, you know, three kind of phases of your health growth. The first is foundational. The second is kind of a refinement period. And then the third is a mastery period. And that first that first phase is a step.
Speaker 1:You know, you're improving your sleep. You're getting seven to nine hours of sleep. This is something I've been focused on a lot more recently. I had my buddy, Kyle LaSota on the podcast a while back, and he was saying, someone told him this advice, the one thing you can do to improve your health is to get to bed on time, the same time every night. And when he said that, I was like, that's the most brilliant thing I ever heard.
Speaker 1:It's so easy. It's so simple. It's it literally speaks my language because I just don't try to overcomplicate any of this stuff. And I didn't really start to implement it immediately. And then I've started track recently just trying to get to bed right at 09:00.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's hard to get that habit change to actually happen. But once you get in that pattern, you know, going to bed at nine, waking up at five, waking up at six, whatever it is, you can actually start to materially see how much benefit there is, how much alpha there is in terms of having the same energy every day and not being not feeling like you have different modalities of of energy every single day and just having that drive. And quite frankly, you know, I'm a younger guy. I think having some of those nights where you're, you know, less than seven hours of sleep grinding, doing your thing, or going out and celebrating, having a good time, like, that's fine. I'm talking kinda like a eighty twenty, ninety ten rule here.
Speaker 1:And I think if you really hammer that home and are good on 90% of your days, like, that's a massive win. And so on top of that, the found in this foundational phase, you know, talking about seven to nine hours of sleep, 90% whole foods, 15,000 steps. And if you do this, this is where you start feeling way more energized. You lose that brain fog. You might lose a few pounds.
Speaker 1:You might start feeling more athletic. You might drop a pant size. This is where that momentum really like, after two, three, four weeks of this, you start to you start to really feel good. That's where the momentum happens. And so I think it's a beauty this foundational period is beautiful.
Speaker 1:And then you start to the refinement is kinda just starting to throw some darts out there, you know, get the water filter, you know, join some run clubs, add some resistance training in there, you know, really start to build those, like, core implement like, implement those core habits and just lock them in. You know, find something that's fun to do. You know? Where's the fun? We gotta we gotta make this health thing fun.
Speaker 1:And, you know, you can go out and play basketball, go kayak. You know? Here in Austin, can go kayak all day. You can do some stand up paddleboard, all this good stuff. And then, the mastery phase is like, hey.
Speaker 1:Go out there and, go out with a sense of purpose around one of these goals. You know, go master pull ups. Go, deepen your spiritual practices. You know, I think that you know, we're talking about health. We're talking about, like, you know, this obesity problem at the beginning of this pod.
Speaker 1:But how much of this is, like, you know, issues related to eating? To me, it's like almost feels like a purpose related issue. Like, you know, if you have a purpose, you wanna take care of your body so you can fulfill that purpose so you can do the things that you wanna do so you can, you know, build the business, build the family. I'm like, if you've got extra energy to pour into the things that you really wanna be doing and building, come on. Like, that is just you know, it's like extra money in the bank, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:And so, you know, I I think that this framework works for a few reasons. You know? It gives us a full rejection of the over intellectualization, fully rejected. We have rejected the premise that studies matter when it comes to health, when it comes to, you know, fighting back against the, obesity epidemic. And, you know, it's focusing on the human design.
Speaker 1:It's playing into the things that we're designed to be good at. You know, we're designed to rest. We're designed to get sleep and to to let our body's natural healing processes take place. We're designed to eat whole foods. We're not designed to eat processed garbage.
Speaker 1:And so I think that when we start pressing into some of these things that we're designed to do, you know, getting in the sun, going for a walk, this is where this is where the alpha is. This is the margin in your life that starts to expand, And, this is where this is where the change happens. So my call to action, you know, the the source utility, that that metric that I'm pulling out where, you know, you just see this rapid, you know, studying everything and nothing changes. Actually, you know, something did change. We we got worse.
Speaker 1:So this is a wake up call, not a stat sheet. This is not like these metrics aren't something that's, you know, gonna win, you know, some sort of award at some sort of scientific conference. But this is a push to live your health out and not study it. You know, implement, take action. Action is it it just it really is it's where the rubber meets the road.
Speaker 1:This is this is the stuff that that I think really matters. And so I can encourage you guys in anything I said, go out there, make a change. You know, if you're if you're kind of feeling stuck, you need to get get moving a little bit more. Yep. Make make one or two changes.
Speaker 1:Let's start making a shift one week at a time. So here's some next steps. Pick one. So we've got this three step, you know, I said the health triad, the simple framework. We've got three we got this the foundational, the refinement, the mastery.
Speaker 1:Pick one habit from this first step, from the foundational step, and just lock it in. Seven hours of sleep, 15,000 steps, you know, 90% whole foods. Let's lock that in for a week, two weeks, see what happens. Track it in a journal. Step two.
Speaker 1:Connect with one other person. So bring somebody else along for the ride. Step three. And then give a little bit of reflection time daily. So we're gonna step four is, five minutes of daily reflection.
Speaker 1:Just to, like, you know, these I think that a lot of these the fact that this is a societal health problem means that and that this play this plays another thought around the theater of it all. We're all I think we're all kinda like watching the same movie and, no one's really like, you know, stepping outside the theater and going, is this movie worth watching? And so, you know, take five minutes a day, give yourself some accountability, just like, hey. Is is this working? Am I am I seeing this thing the right way?
Speaker 1:Do I feel like I'm getting better? Do I feel like I'm actually putting in the right amount of effort? Do I need to work harder at this? Do I need to focus more? Do I need to find a better accountability partner?
Speaker 1:Do I need to, rest more? I mean, there's a million things that if you just label raise man, English. Raise the level of awareness, you will see some benefits just by acknowledging it, accepting as kind of the truth, and, moving through that. So, the closing closing challenge here is, health is a choice, not a study. Let's end the charade.
Speaker 1:Let's stop the theater. The theater to me, I think I think we've all kind of grown aware that this it needs to end. We we need this to to stop this whole theater of us us playing into this, you know, getting sick and being diseased and being unhealthy. You know, again, realizing that there's a lot of things working against us in this, but let's not play the victim. So if you guys like this podcast, if you enjoyed this solo rep, shoot me a DM, meet mafia Harry on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Shoot me, a message for the meet mafia podcast over on Substack. I'm starting to write a lot more over on Substack, so go follow us on Substack. I love writing. I'm getting back into it. You know, I had, my buddy Brad Kearns who responded to this, this article that I wrote last week, the over intellectualization of health.
Speaker 1:And, he just said, woah, great article. This is awesome. And I was like, alright. I I need to start writing again. This I'm gonna I'm gonna lose it if I don't use it.
Speaker 1:And, so he, he got me started again thinking about writing more. So I appreciate you, Brad Kearns. And, yeah. So go check out the Substack. If this is your first time listening to the podcast, usually, do podcast style interviews.
Speaker 1:We have guests on. We've had incredible guests. We had, Ben Greenfield on the podcast recently. We've had Paul Chek. We've had, Joel Salatin, Will Harris, you know, Callie Means, all these incredible people.
Speaker 1:We had Marty Makary, who's now the head of the FDA. We've had all these people, these cool people on the podcast. So I I highly encourage you guys to go check out those podcast interviews. I can link everything that you've heard here. I'll I'll link that study in the show notes that I read at the beginning just so you guys can check it out.
Speaker 1:I'll link the six pillars to reclaiming your health. I'll link that in the show notes. I'll link my original essay in the show notes. And so I'll just I'll leave everything for you guys in the show notes. So go check it out.
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