#422 Ali Miller: Practical Detox Strategies for Today’s Toxic World

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Alright, cool. Should we get into part three? Sure. Little EMF onto the next one. EMFs and, uh, environmental Toxins? Yes. Yes. Yeah, let's do it for the listener. Yeah. We just recorded an amazing first part of this conversation all around your, uh, Ally's book, naturally Nourished Kids. Look at that. Absolutely.

Beautiful. Um, comes out officially in September too. Yes. Which we're, which we're super excited about. And then you had texted us saying, Hey, we definitely need to do a part two on this research that you've come across in regards to detoxing, EMFs, microplastics, and glyphosate. Yes. And we were really interested in that because there is a lot of information in.

I dunno if fear mongering is the right word around those things. 'cause there is a lot of support, um, against why those things are so detrimental. But I do feel like there are a lot of people in the health and wellness community that are [00:01:00] just like, they are fear mongering and creating content pieces, but not giving you actionable steps to remove those things or detox those things.

So as soon as you would come to us with that, with the research that you'd been coming across, you're like, all right, we have to talk about this because this seems super nuanced in the weeds and then highly valuable for our audience too. Yes, yes. I'm excited to talk about it. I put this information together for a lecture I did at Rome Ranch.

Uh, yes. Which is uh, you know, out in Fredericksburg. Mm-hmm. And regenerative agriculture. It was for their What Good Shall I Do Conference? And it was called, I think. Uh, crossing something about connecting the dots of environmental toxicity, food, and nutrition. Mm-hmm. And, you know, I basically wanted to set the stage of these three problems.

Have people understand what these three problems actually do to the human body. I always ask, what is the mechanism of action with anything good or bad, right? So like, if this is bad, what is the mechanism of [00:02:00] action? If this is good glutathione, neck, et cetera, what is the mechanism of action? Right? What does it do biochemically speaking or physiologically in my process?

And then I can understand how to fix it. Hmm. Uh, and so the first step. My research was really digging into the weeds on each of those three of what they do in the body, which we can unpack as we go through, however you wanna do it. Uh, and then I wanted to provide, once I know the mechanism of action, for instance, let's say gut sterility.

Okay, well, I know if this provokes gut sterility, that then we can provide microbiome support through probiotics, prebiotics, and maybe even going a little bit further and doing immunoglobulins or. Doing a probiotic challenge or a stool test if an individual really needs some clinical, uh, work in that space.

Uh, but right there we're already closing that gap on this was the problem, and that's the solution, you know, to offset type of thing. Uh, so I think it's important first before people get super scared of exposure to these [00:03:00] things of. What can it do to my body? How does it create injury or harm? And then to know powerful food as medicine and lifestyle ways to offset or mitigate that harm and maybe even neutralize it.

Uh, so that we can feel empowered in our day-to-day lives because we are bombarded by them, unfortunately, all three mm. So you are saying there are solutions. Yes, there are mitigating solutions. Good. Yes. Yes. Um, I guess just as a place to start, could you just like present the problem, like I feel like common sense kind of like.

Prevails here where it's like, yeah, we probably shouldn't be eating a credit card's worth of microplastics every single year. Yeah. Week. Like I think we A week. It's a week, man. Five grams a week. Yes. Oh my gosh. Mm-hmm. So like the problem is very real. And I think anyone, you don't need a PhD to be like, that's not right.

But we also don't really understand the, you know, mechanisms of like tracking this stuff, right. Like what it's really doing in the body. So could you just present that and Yeah. You know, inform us on kind of like [00:04:00] how bad these things actually are. Which one? Which one do you want? Me? Because I can't do all three right away, otherwise, we'll go way down.

What do you think is the most detrimental out of the three? Ooh. Oh, I, I think I would like to start with EMF only because Perfect. It's the most interesting to me. Okay. Yeah. Uh. Because the EM F1 is like the headiest. It's the most, I think, spiritually connected one. And uh, it's like Sally Fallon Morell's, like.

Big thing. Do you know Sally Fallon from Western and Christ? Yes. She's big on EMFs as well. Yes. Okay. Being very negative. So, well, you know, so I started to, to talk a lot about EMF and the impact during the bad season, during pandemic. Uh, when, of course there's a lot of like wearables, a lot of, um, we were, this was pre 5G.

Yeah. 'cause 5G happened, you know, in 21, I believe it was. Um, and 5G radiation is in the same. Wavelength of microwave. Um, when we look at radiation, um, scales [00:05:00] and we allow substantially more electromagnetic radiation in our country than all of the European Union and so many other countries beyond. Uh, so our regulation is very poor.

Uh, we are conditioned to devices, uh, always on our bodies, in our hands, um, in our near space. And we're quite bombarded with the electromagnetic frequency that can hijack essentially our nervous system. So I guess to set the tone before we even go into that, it's important to know that the human body is electromagnetic.

Uh, and I read a book called, oh, boogers the Electric. I think it's called the, it is called the Body Electric. Mm Uh, which I'll link it. I cannot think of the author off the top of my head. Um, but the Body electric like cracked my mind open in half and I learned through that book a couple very cool things.

One. [00:06:00] I knew prior to that book through the work of HeartMath, if you've heard of the HeartMath Institute. Mm-hmm. Um, HeartMath Institute looks at the, uh, heart rate and also, so EKG or E-E-G-E-K-G, if we're talking about the heart, EEG, if we're talking about the brainwaves, right. And these are using electromagnetic reads.

Um, we know that an EKG can measure six feet outside of the body. So, like right now, probably me and Harry are sharing an electromagnetic field and, and we probably all are, we're probably all in a little diagram, a little Venn diagram of electromagnetic field here, right? Mm-hmm. And so humans, we've been through God in our creator divinely given an electromagnetic frequency.

Okay? Like that's not debatable, it's measurable and even scientific. Assessments, which is an EKG or an EEG. So not debatable, right? So we're all putting out an electromagnetic current and this current communicates. Okay. So we have to think of first and foremost, like have you felt the relationship of petting an animal?

Right? Have you felt not just [00:07:00] oxytocin of, of cuddling with your partner, but like a really good hug? Have you ever come into a room after an argument and actually felt an energetic, an energetic variant? Than, than another room in the house. Mm-hmm. Right. Um, we've actually seen that our frequency can carry and can hold.

Um, and so as electromagnetic beings, our wave or our frequency that we put out is symbiotic or synergistic with others as well as our environment. One way that we've lost our electromagnetic frequency is through the lack of grounding. So there's a lot of benefits of grounding and, and big part of that is that we're actually connecting with the free ions of the earth when we put bare feet on the ground or we put our feet in the river, and that's tapping in to God of.

Electric beings, right? Like we are taking that human cosmos into nature and rewiring or, uh, recharging, we could think of it, of or grabbing that frequency and, and it's actually, um, called Schumann [00:08:00] resonance is a hertz frequency that is called god's frequency. Within that Schumann resonance. And so we can find that grounding frequency, energy that can be restorative, that can help our nervous systems work, that can help our cardiovascular system work mm-hmm.

That can fight against cancer. I mean, we know the benefits we've seen in research about grounding even like blood clots can be resolved, uh, thinner blood versus thicker blood, uh, et cetera. We've lost that. And furthermore, our electromagnetic frequency is being hijacked by artificial electromagnetic frequency from EMF.

Does that make sense? It does. So it's like does a two part piece, right? It's like we are not connected with others. We don't have community, we have screen, we have EM, F device. So the more time that we spend away from nature and community or other humans with a heartbeat or animals with a heartbeat, riding horses, let's say is a really great way to Reese.

Set your electromagnetic frequency because horses actually in the wild all share a heart rate. And so I mean, [00:09:00] we've seen how skittish they are. We use equine therapy with a lot of, uh, individuals with like autism spectrum or for bipolar disorder and mental health because horses are so in tuned with our electro frequency, they can feel.

From more than six feet away. Right. Wow. And so when horses are in the wild, um, and a predator's coming, one heart rate changes and the whole herd knows that's how tapped in they are. Like if we think tribally, we were so tapped in in our communities that we could feel their frequency because we were, we were connected, we weren't distracted.

Mm-hmm. Um, and so knowing our own frequency and being connected to God, frequency is a way to heal, feel. Hmm. True joy, um, feel a part of something bigger. Mm-hmm. And, and I think we've all lost that through the decades. Yeah. But we are at this crux now that we're being bombarded by so many inputs that are artificial electro frequency, that, that almost robs us and takes over our electro current, if that makes sense.

Mm-hmm. Uh. [00:10:00] If that makes sense. It's kind of heavy, it's incredible, but like, basically like we're being sent signals of survival and fight or flight surge that is not of a human base or a god frequency base. Hmm. Um, and oxidative stress wise, we've seen inflammation from it. Uh, we have seen that. Um, we can see in like MRI scans of the brain where a cell phone was held.

We can see more excitatory neurons and inflammation. And so on a cellular level, on a neurological level, we know that there's also stress beyond that hijacking or taking away from source. Well, I've even seen pictures of like telephone towers, like all the plants near it, like just dying. Mm-hmm. And like I think, I think plants and animals are way more receptive and responsive to, or at least they, I guess like maybe show it, but they're equally as responsive as we are to EMFs.

And it's really interesting to hear you talk about. It's the hertz frequency or the, what's the, um, [00:11:00] the frequency that we're supposed to be at. Is that Yeah, well, the Hertz, Uhhuh. Herz. Well, no, Hertz is a measurement. Okay. Um, it's the Schumann resonance. Yeah. And there is a particular frequency called God frequency, which is 7 8, 7 0.83, something like that.

So that's where we're supposed to be, right? Mm-hmm. At all times, that's our grounded, like, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And so can we, I guess. You're saying the artificial EMS lower that frequency? Mm-hmm. Is there a frequency beyond that where it's like. It's not better or per se, but like, you know, what does that frequency beyond that look like?

So in human resonance there is like alpha data beta, um, there's, there's various brainwaves that actually connect with different resonance. And then there's also what's called sgio. Um, SGIO is. Sound frequency. Um, so if we're thinking of like, I think it was like John Lennon and, uh, Jimi Hendrix and I dunno, another musician that always played in this particular hertz frequency.

Mm-hmm. Which is really interesting, um, that the brain receives differently. Um, and they would tunes. [00:12:00] Specifically for that. Wow. Uh, and we think of like sound healing. We think of meditation making sounds. A lot of that is because it connects with our vagus nerve, which the vagus nerve goes from the brainstem to the colon, and it works on vibration a lot.

It's what regulates our autonomic nervous system. And so again, when we're getting fine tuned, thrown, our vagus nerve is constantly in a sympathetic. Nervous system response, fight or flight. When our vagus nerve is getting more parasympathetic regulatory, we feel safer. We have, uh, less fight or flight surge, less anxiety, less depression, but also better metabolic function and so forth.

Uh, so in the world of like EMF, we wanna think of a couple solutions. One is to ensure that we're getting. Ri rich sources of polyphenols and antioxidants to offset oxidative stress. So, you know, if you're not comfortable doing a lot of produce, you've healed through carnivore, you're more comfortable in the meat space.

I would say at least get comfortable with like herb seasoning spices like chimi hurries for your steak. Uh, sip on tea for [00:13:00] polyphenols. Lovely to do like roose and hibiki. Or I have green tea here in my glass. Um, getting polyphenols is a great way, whether arguably to challenge the body through, through hormesis to make.

Endogenous antioxidants, meaning the body is stressed by broccoli. And so I, that sulforaphane pushes me to make more glutathione either way that EMF is depleting my glutathione, so I need to get that store back up, right? Mm-hmm. So I want to eat phyto compounds that are going to provide plant-based antioxidants and ideally provoke my body to produce antioxidants as a natural shield for that oxidative stress.

We also wanna think in the world of proactively seeking God frequency. And so that's like, I had a patient in the bad season that, uh, I think I may have shared this on the last episode, but very relevant here. Um, he is a, like, super brilliant, literally rocket scientist at MIT. And, um, started having dysglycemia and crazy blood sugar, uh, because of I think social isolation, isolation.

Um, [00:14:00] and so because he didn't have a roommate, he didn't have a pet, um, we had him put a CGM on, and the only time his blood sugar was normalized is when he did a ballroom dancing class, when he was touching a human because he was touching a human and that was necessary for his body to say. Oh, I am human.

I am here. Here is where I start. Here's where I you, we are wired to be in our bodies to have somatic connection, and too many of us are hardwired. And again, that distraction, artificial that we don't feel anymore. Um, we're not connected with our heart. We're not connected in our. And, and a lot of that I think is really important.

So community, um, long hugs, actually making physical contact with others. Getting, you know, bare feet on the ground. Yes. Getting our hands in the dirt, taking off wearables, moving our cell phone out of our bedroom, not charging it by our nightstand, which we see has substantially higher amount of radiation.

Um, especially when [00:15:00] plugged into the outlet. Um, it's putting out higher EMF. I use a kill switch for my wifi overnight. I'm a little extreme, but you can unplug your router at least Yeah. When you go to bed. And so there's some defense things we can do. One of the worst times to uh, be exposed to EMF is in our cars.

So really, you know, all these like apple play things. Mm-hmm. And, um, really trying to go back to like, uh, a downloaded sound, a downloaded, uh, playlist. Mm-hmm. What is that thing called? Yeah. Those CDs or whatever those things are. Right. But, um, cas set tapes. I know I'm, I'm have my husband trying to find me a car without a push button.

I want like a key ignition, a lot of reasons. But anyway, um, I'm like, dude, I want a dumb car. Get him outta here. But. You really wanna avoid doing any of the wifi stuff while in your car because you're just getting bounced by every tower you go by. Mm-hmm. And you're getting bombarded by multiple and also other cars around you.

Mm-hmm. And that's like your baking. Um, and so I would say be mindful in your car to go into airplane mode, um, and try to use like hard [00:16:00] downloaded playlists versus streaming. And especially I would. Caution parents that have their kids streaming movies or on devices, especially if there's multiple devices in a car, that's a high risk for an EMF stress, um, experience.

So we can defense and try to limit exposure to these things. Uh, we can, um, get access to nature. And then the antioxidants are really the big, the big solution there. And then we can layer in even further healing stuff like the sound frequency we can layer in. And then it's like, how do we get back to a space where the brain can say, okay, these vibrations feel like home again.

This feels safe in my. Body. I remember a camping trip that we went to Colorado and we just got completely unplugged. We were out there, uh, for a conference and, um, we were sleeping on the ground. I probably averaged like five hours of sleep a night, but we were so far away from everything else, and I, I came back and I was like.

Just inflammation had dropped. Yes. I had like lost a little bit of weight. I was like, like, and I didn't really, yeah, I was not intending to do any of that and I [00:17:00] didn't change anything other than just being further away from just the city and all the different, you know, I think it was just purely EMF exposure and.

Sleeping on the ground, like grounding all throughout the night Yes. I think was pretty powerful. Yes. Uh, I live in a dark sky community and we love star gazing as a way of resetting. Uh, and so we'll kick off everything and just lay outside. Feeling small and as a part of something bigger than feeling worried and burdened by the programmed fearmongering messaging of the world that's actually getting you, not just in your brain, but also on an EMF level mm-hmm.

Is so important. So like truly unplugging, unplugging mentally, but unplugging also electrically. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's almost like, I don't mean to take it in a different direction, but it's almost like the, the other side of EMF too is like. These devices that absolutely fry your dopamine, where it's like you can't tap into the God frequency.

And then I really feel for like the younger generation that's just grown up with these [00:18:00] phones. Our buddy Noah Ryan, who's this big, big biohacker on Twitter. He talks about how the future, how he talks about the future being the analog world. So being able to leave your phone behind and learn how to, you know, navigate directions without your GPS.

Yeah. Or have like a pen and paper. Um, and I always use this story on the podcast, but I remember I was at a steakhouse like two months ago and my phone had died. Because, because my phone is out, I just put it next to me. And I realized that that was the first time in 45 minutes, that I actually had just taken in like the entire spectrum and the ambiance of the, of the restaurant.

Yes. Because I was still like, even just energetically having that thing on me, just what it's done to my dopamine. Yes. Um, so I don't mean to, uh, sidetrack off EMFs, but it's funny how those two things are so. Closely doubt correlated. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah. And I mean, right. The addiction and the stealing of the presence of the spirit, I think is very concerning.

Yes. And again, it's just to me like a, I think there's a, a spiritual warfare going on in that, definitely in that space that I [00:19:00] want to be. Aware of for the way that I model my behaviors around my child. Mm-hmm. Uh, and the household that she grows up in. And we try to literally put phones in a different room during the dinner time.

Uh, because again, it it's so addictive. Yeah. I myself am totally addicted to my phone. And there's something about the, like scrolling, um, mechanism for sure. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That, that is disgusting. It's a porn slot machine. Well, it, it just, I mean, all these things are designed in a way to like make us more mindless.

Mm-hmm. Which is so sad. Mm-hmm. I mean, just like the awareness of like, you know, turning your phone off to have a human connection at dinner is like, becoming more rare. Yes. And like when you do get those moments, I feel like they're, they become more and more refreshing because they're so like. Rare to have that like deep level of connection.

Whereas I, I feel like our generation almost has the responsibility to remind Yes. Like this next generation that like getting away, resetting, being with people [00:20:00] like before iPhone. Like I think all of us remember what it was like before iPhones and smartphones and like the world was more connected. Yes.

You know, and it's these false, uh, superficial. Superficial, I was gonna say surface level, false, superficial connections that. Trick us from the desire for true, innate, nourishing connection. Yeah. And I mean, it's just like porn. It's just like anything, right? Yeah. It's, it's that same like quick fix, false, I idealization, uh, versus connection with spirit and intention.

Uh, and so I think it's, it's a, a slippery slope. But, but yes. Intentionally making a part of your week focused on getting into God frequency is key. So whether that is camping, whether that is gardening, whether that is horseback riding, whether it's even walking your dog. Yeah. But maybe at least taking a time.

Not every time you can listen to podcasts when you walk your dog, but take an intentional walk with your dog where it's a hike. And you're observing, um, nature because we're even seeing [00:21:00] proprioception, which is basically our understanding of our body and space. Uh, we're seeing proprioception going down the tank with these newer generations because they're not, like you said, they're not aware of their environment.

Yes. So they're like literally like running into walls and like mm-hmm. Weak getting atrophied and weakening themselves because they're just so in a small, uh, a shorter versus farsighted. Definitely, uh, experience in life, um, and, and their body tone and, uh, you know, their ability to know. For instance, again, in Wimberly we're always looking for rattlesnakes.

Like I saw a rattlesnake once on my driveway and, uh, my dog was off leash. And so anytime I'm walking, I'm never not scanning my entire 180 surroundings Yes, for my daughter, my dog, and myself. And that survival, human innate experience with my natural world is how we evolved. Always. Yeah. And just now we're not even walking, looking where we walk.

Oh my gosh. I mean, it's insane. You see it all the time all over Austin too. I've even been guilty of it as well. When I have my certain headphones in, I'm turning off this [00:22:00] whole, this whole, um, this one particular sense of the world. And I've noticed, like I've looked up and be like, oh my gosh, there's literally a car right there.

Like, I have to, I have to fight myself on it all the time. Yeah. Because I'm accepting the fact that like, I just, I am addicted to this thing. Right. And recognition's a great first step. Right. But I'm like, I don't want to be the. Husband and the dad that's always just scrolling and distracted. Mm-hmm. Like there's probably nothing Satan loves more than having you just distracted perpetually.

Right. And worried worry is separation from God. Right? Yes. So it's like the two like literally hooks. Yeah. Right. And And stress of finance or lack of trust. Not believing that God is sovereign and has your back and always having to troubleshoot, you know? Yes. And so I think at least programming in, I don't like to think programming in that sounds very ai.

Yeah. But planning in some time that is organic is so key. Yes. And, and, and let's all be realistic about it. Just like with food as medicine, right. I mean. I love and hate the fact that with naturally nourished kids coming out and filming a lot of dinners, so my phone is out more. You know, I have to share what we're doing.

This is a part of us sharing our world to the [00:23:00] world. Yeah. Uh, but immediately it goes and it gets put in the bedroom. Yes. Uh, we don't keep it out and then watch who's liking the post kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know, so just to recap on EMFs. Practical solutions, what would kind of your top three be?

So practical solutions would be keep your devices, this is a hard one. The cell phone ratings of approval are all looked at. I believe it's four feet away from you. Really? That is crazy. Which is crazy. That's assuming that, like I have my phone, you know, on that arm of Harry's chair on speaker, and that's how I'm communicating on it.

It says Apple. They're not looking at it held in your hand within one or two feet. Mm-hmm. Or especially touching your body. So I would say keep devices off of your body, number one. Um, and that goes for, especially men for fertility, for phones in their pockets. Um, women as well. But I see men more doing that.

Um, of course kiddos with tablets over the reproductive organs. So keep your device at a safe distance and have device free hours or times that you completely shut down your device [00:24:00] and your wifi router would be my recommendation. Uh, and then creating. Sanctuary spaces or intentional times of seeking out your natural electromagnetic being in God's space.

Um, and so how can you make that connection? Is that again, a hike after church? Is that, uh, time that you guys, like our family, we've been trying on and it's been working pretty well, A device free day, once a week. It's really hard. Yeah. 'cause that's like streaming music. It's like we only listen to records on that day.

Mm-hmm. Um, of course no shows or movies, no social, no searching. Stella wanted to look up a dog cake recipe 'cause our German shepherd's turning two. And I was like, well, it's device free day. We can look at our recipe books, but I don't know how many dog cakes they have. We might have to wait on that and wait to Google tomorrow.

Um, but it creates discipline and I think that that's really important and, and a remembering. Remembering of what it is to be human. Mm-hmm. Like we don't want to be hybridized robots, and we're becoming that because we're not disen, [00:25:00] we're not disengaging with the hijacking EMF and AI devices. Totally. We need to disengage.

It's our, that's our. Discernment to be able to do so and to choose to do so. Hmm. Um, and, and then I would just say getting polyphenols for the antioxidants to offset the oxidative stress that we're getting from being slowly microwaved. Uh, and, and that's the best thing we can do in that sense. And, um, that's, that, those are two things.

So avoidance of the connection, seeking the connection. And then eating antioxidants. And for polyphenols, do you have like one or two recommendations for people to incorporate? So I love my, uh, lemon turmeric ginger shooter. Mm-hmm. I think it's fantastic. It's literally five lemons. Uh, you just cut the top off and just a little bit of the peel, but you keep that white furry pith, uh, because it has a lot of antioxidants in there.

And also bio flavanoids. And those are blended hole in a blender with a couple inches of, um, organic turmeric, root and ginger, and then just a cup of water. And I keep that in a [00:26:00] big jar and we just do a shooter of that, like one ounce with one ounce water. Um, that's lovely and easy, really good to stimulate bile flow.

Great way to start the day and get a nice antioxidant and anti-inflammatory kick. Uh, I love teas. Mm-hmm. Um, as I mentioned, so like incorporating teas within your hydration plan. Herb seasonings and spices. So whether it's warming seasonings like cinnamon and nutmeg, those are polyphenol rich and rosemary and basil and thyme and cilantro.

Uh, incorporating these in sauces is really fantastic. And then, you know, to digestive comfort and capacity eating fruits and vegetables, um, and leaning into the sulfurous ones would be best to support liver detox. Hmm. It's amazing how many of those recommendations are almost just an extension of getting back to being.

Human the way that God designed you to actually be. Yes, yes. And they're incredibly simple. They're just, it, it just takes, like you said, a degree of discipline and intentionality. Especially if you have kids to be like, Hey, we're all gonna leave our devices and tablets and you know, put [00:27:00] 'em in this room and we're not gonna see them all day.

Mm-hmm. And I'm even thinking about like. With my wife. If we just had a day a week where we just put our phones away, like what type of connection would you have where there's no, there's no chance of, you know, watching Netflix or checking or scrolling on your phone or something. What would that do for your relationship?

Compounding over time? It would be incredible. Yes. Yeah. So maybe you start once a month. Yeah. But you work it into once a week. Mm-hmm. Et cetera. Yeah. How about de uh, detoxing? Microplastics. Okay. What are the key things there? Yes, so microplastics are gnarly. There are nano nanoplastics and microplastics.

So nanoplastics are just smaller in size. Uh, we are bombarded with them about five grams a week of exposure in the human body. And we're seeing them in, um, whether autopsy or scan, we've seen them in the human body, distributed into our bone, into our sexual organs, into our cardiovascular system, into our brain.

Uh. I, I, I think we've heard facts like that and I never want us to feel like it's too late. Yeah. Because it sounds kind of [00:28:00] messed up. Yes. Uh, and, you know, not. Necessarily how we were designed. These are, you know, petrochemical mm-hmm. Industrial produced plastics. And I think it's important for listeners to know it goes further than, um, your plastic water bottle.

We're talking about vinyl, we're talking about spandex, which is a lot of polymers and clothing, especially like exercise apparel. Uh, we are talking about the lining in every can. We are talking about, um, tea bags. I mean, it's. It goes wide, wide stream and unfortunately also even saw, I have a study reference to my presentation that are fruits and vegetables.

Independent of how they're stored. So not saying like wrapped in plastic, but because of the precipitation and our ozone layer holding microplastics in them, uh, that we're seeing microplastics embedded in the soil and the becoming parts of our produce or becoming parts of our meat. So again, there is ways to reduce our [00:29:00] exposure.

Uh, and you know, we can start with saying dress as much as we can in linen. I've been a huge fan of like linen and cotton clothing and trying to find, you know, alternates in the athletic wear. Yes. Yeah. Uh, sheets of course, being mindful of things that you're like sleeping in body temperature, especially if you're saing.

Make sure you're wearing organic cotton shorts when you're saing because you're asking yourself through the blood, sweat, and urine studies, we saw that the most detox of microplastics comes out through our sweat. Uh, so we wouldn't want to wear something over our sexual glands that's going to impart microplastics while we're opening our pores, because that's going to create more, um.

Of our, um, bloodstream to take that in versus excrete at that time. So that's important to note. Uh, it goes, you know, into our cutting boards being bamboo or wood versus microplastic, uh, our dish pods of our dishwasher being plastic free and so forth. So there's a lot of lifestyle swap outs, [00:30:00] um, to avoid.

But we need some offense as well, like I said, because they're kind of. In our environment. Mm-hmm. And, and almost is inescapable in some sense. Uh, and so when we look at microplastics in the literature, there's a fantastic study that came out in, uh, 2023, I believe it is. Um, and I can send the link for the show notes on probiotics as, uh, offsetting microplastics.

Wow. Um, yep. And it looked at various strains of pro bacteria that actually, and we've seen, you know, remediation in the fungal space. I dunno if you've seen with like petrochemicals oils. Bills, there's certain mushrooms that can actually eat away at industrial chemicals. Uh, we can see this with probiotics in the human body, and we may see this extended into some mushroom families as well as a detoxifier and ability to kind of trap circulating microplastics.

Uh, but probiotics are quite compelling right now in the literature. Uh, we also see there was. Study on polyphenols and um, plastics, and it looked at this [00:31:00] body with a right and left. I have it in one of my slides for the presentation, and it literally shows every sign of 'cause microplastics. What they do in the human body is they drive autoimmune activity because they stress the immune system as a foreign object in the body.

The body's like, what is this? Why is it here? Okay. Um, and so it creates inflammatory cascades and then that can create the immune system attacking its. Self. Uh, we see also endocrinological issues where, uh, hormone pathways can be impacted by the plastics themself. So some of them are endocrine disruptors, which can interfere with thyroid, uh, fertility, sex hormone balance.

Uh, and then we can also see them just driving generalized inflammation or disrupting metabolic health due to the thyroid and the connection with insulin as a hormone as well. Uh, so. We look at all those areas of focus and we look at polyphenols, again, an overlap, which is lovely. I like when solutions are multifaceted.

Mm-hmm. Uh, we see polyphenols can actually offset like the nephrology, [00:32:00] the, the nephrology toxicity or the kidney toxicity that microplastics have shown. We've seen polyphenols specifically offset, uh, we've seen that in the cardiovascular system. We've seen that in the brain. Um, and so again, the recommendation comes back to.

Getting that variety of antioxidant in the diet to offset that oxidative stress. Um, and then upregulating the detox processes in the body. Um, I saw some awesome studies on spirulina and chlorella specific to microplastics. They're gentle chelators. Uh, so I love like a half a teaspoon of that. You can throw that into that lemon turmeric extruder I mentioned.

Get it all in in one. Um, E three live is a, a line that I like of spiraling and chlorella, uh, or I do a super greens cube, uh, which basically I take five different greens. So beet greens, I take kale, spinach, charred, um, and then whatever else is in season. And blend those up on high with just enough water to get 'em blended.

And then, um, pour that into the big two by two ice cube trays, [00:33:00] the silicone, so they're microplastic free. And then top that with the, uh, spirulina chlorella. And one of those goes into bone broth and you have cream of green soup, or it goes into a smoothie and you blend that up. Um, and so that's a really good delivery with some chelation and detox support.

Uh, and then getting, uh, enough sulfur containing amino acids, which is more in like the alien family. So like our shallots, our garlic, our leeks, uh, and then also we look to cruciferous in like our cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli. Uh, these all also are gonna support the, um. Sulfur containing pathways of phase two of biochemical detoxification, which is the encapsulation excretion.

Um, and so super key to have an abundance of those nutrients if the body's being constantly bombarded so that we can actually encapsulate and remove from the body versus have that deposit in our body. And we're seeing today in metabolic research. You know, maybe instead of it being excessive calories, that it's [00:34:00] mitochondrial toxicity that we're seeing with obesity.

Um, you know, we're seeing similar caloric distribution, but again, whole real foods versus industrialized processed foods. And then also the body's so bombarded with industrial toxin that it doesn't metabolize in clear it, it holds to protect. And so it makes more fat to protect our vital organs from exposure to these unknown toxins.

Mm-hmm. And, um, that can really perpetuate, of course. Metabolic dysfunction. Well, so the ways that we're encountering these plastics, you said wearing clothes that might have plastics in it, so the, you know, all the plastic athletic wear that people are wearing and even like t-shirts, it's shocking. Like you go into Target and you know, like Cat and Jack as a kid's line and everything.

The thing that is so greenwash is when it says it's. Like Recycled. Recycled. This is made with, this is a green made shirt. Yes. You know, and that's very on trend for a lot of these big corporations that make affordable clothing and all of them, nothing. You have to seek 100% cotton. Right? Truly. So like things that look like cotton aren't cotton [00:35:00] anymore.

It's important to call that out. And I don't think people envision that they're wearing grocery bags literally on their body. Have you tried Riker? No. Uhuh. Oh, they're actually. I, I think they might only have guys' clothes, but they're athletic shorts that have a cotton lining in it. Okay. And I've like never seen that before.

And I boarded like four pairs. They're incredible. You like 'em? Yeah. Yeah. Your husband. We should, I will. I got him. Nads Nas is great too. That was Father's Day gift. Great. Go. Dude. He didn't like, we, we use a packed mat or mate. I'm not sure how that's pronounced, but, uh, this is Boden, this is cotton. But yeah, we're pretty conscious about intentionally selecting and purchasing those things.

And then yes, you know, your food preparation to the way you clean your dishes, to the way that you store your food, and of course, reheat your food. Yeah. Leaning into, of course, glass stainless steel. Uh. Making sure that you're not doing lined pans, et cetera. I feel like those decisions, along with like a good shower filter, water filter, are the types of decisions where you make like one purchase.

Yes. [00:36:00] And then you're just good. Yes. 'cause like in order to just like protect yourself away from these environmental toxins, like you're just one purchase away. Yes. Like one click of the right product that can get you on the right path and not have to worry about it. Mm-hmm. So seems like it makes a lot of sense.

For sure. And so microplastics, it seems like one of those things where. Even if you've had exposure to it or were doing difficult things, you can actually implement some of these changes. And they've done studies where you can eliminate a lot of these microplastics over time. Yes. Is that fair to say? Yes.

We see excretion rates going up when we're getting higher polyphenols, when we're getting probiotics and when we're sweating. Yeah. So stuff. So glyphosate was the third one? Yes. Yes. So glyphosate. For anyone who doesn't know, it's a key ingredient in Roundup. It's sprayed on basically everything in the us.

It's one of these things that I think when it was first invented, it was a metal chelator, so it was meant to like clean pipes. Yes. And now we're spraying on everything. Yes. So it's basically everywhere. And there's an amazing Zach Bush video talking about how glyphosate basically just immediately burns through [00:37:00] your gut lining and creates a lot of gut dysbiosis.

Leaky gut. And so there's so many things that are associated with negative things that are associated with glyphosate. So I'm really curious about Yes. What you have to say on this topic. So this has the most interesting, I think, interventions, uh, and an interesting mechanism of action. So it's a broad spectrum herbicide, the way it's applied currently?

Yes. And it has three approvals of use. Uh, one is as a broad spectrum herbicide. One is as a antibiotic as well, which is interesting. And another is as a desiccant, which is a, uh, drying agent post-harvest. And glyphosate blocks the chiate pathway in, uh, plant molecules. And we were told that that's safe because humans don't have a shika mate pathway.

This is true. Humans don't have a shika mate pathway, but our microbes. Do. Uh, and that's the loophole of why we're starting to see some imbalance as well as of course the fact that the chemical itself can create neurotoxicity. Uh, so along that [00:38:00] chiate pathway, we actually produce amino acids, tyrosine and tryptophan and phenol alanine, um, and tyrosine and tryptophan might be more familiar of the three.

So we think of tyrosine actually makes dopamine. The amino acid precursor to that neurotransmitter. Uh, we know that tyrosine, um, tyrosine makes dopamine and tryptophan makes serotonin. So tryptophans the precursor to five HTP and then five hydroxy tryptophan makes serotonin. So right away when this chiate pathway is being blocked by glyphosate and then that's coming into the body and that's disturbing our microbes, a, we could see a deficiency on an amino acid level of building blocks.

They're well known for brain chemistry, anxiety and depression and cognitive function. Um, but we can also see through the antibiotic mechanism that it can deplete or sterilize our gut. And we've seen that in a food exposure. So this isn't just people applying the spray in the fields type of thing, you know, it's not like in just that sense of industrial [00:39:00] exposure.

This isn't a dietary exposure, sterility in the microbiome, uh, which I would absolutely agree. And, um, that can then downstream create more gut permeability. We see that the glyphosate can also drive mineral deficiency. So through that kind of chelation and binding property, we can see oxidative stress and inflammation and neurological dysfunction as some of the many mechanisms of how it works.

And, um, when we look. Offsetting one of the most powerful things that we can do. Kind. I love when, you know, nature provides. Um, we see that actually getting in the soil and en encouraging soil based organisms, which I think Zach Bush's product mm-hmm. Is humic acid, right? Yeah. Uh, it's. Like fulvic minerals.

Mm-hmm. Or humic acid. So he's literally saying, eat dirt, right? Mm-hmm. And I agree with that. Like the more that we as humans and we see that research, the more as humans that we can engage with ancient minerals and get our hands into the earth, that actually can help us [00:40:00] to heal from how the damaged earth has hurt us, or, you know, the industrialized version of Earth is impacting us.

So I think that's really beautiful. Um, we also know that there is a. Bacteria in the soil. Uh, I can't think of the first part of it, but Vacay is the second part of it. And, um, that is a natural antibacteria, a natural, um, excuse me, probiotic in the soil that has antidepressant effects. Mm-hmm. Um, and so we see like research on gardeners being happy or having a bliss factor because they're actually getting beneficial.

Brain boosting compounds versus, again, the other scenario of the depletion. Um, and issues with that tyrosine and tryptophan. Uh, we see really cool information on spiraling and chlorella and there's been aquatic studies of, for instance, like mollusks, uh, and them being damaged from runoff from glyphosate and the them, uh, using.

Spirulina and chlorella in the mollus, I guess tanks or whatever parts of the farming of, of [00:41:00] the, the shellfish. Uh, and they've seen that, that's been able to clear the glyphosate in the muscles. Wow. So we see that like in a real time experience. So pretty cool going back to that like algae or spirulina, chlorella in corporation and then on its structure.

Glyphosate is very interesting because it actually has glycine the amino acid in its structure. Hmm. And so yeah, if you look at the molecules of glyphosate, um, glycine is within there. And so what's interesting, furthermore, is that we see individuals with glycine deficiency, which many humans have glycine deficiency, and we can get into y.

Um, but. When you have glycine deficiency, your body's going to hold glyphosate at a higher rate because it molecular mimicry, it believes that it's getting glycine, and the body's like innately knows it needs glycine. Wow. So it's like, let me have more of this glyphosate, which can then create further dysfunction.

One mechanism of defense is to eat glycine rich foods, which is snout to tail. Um, so we're thinking of like the tougher cuts. We're talking about bone broth. We're talking about [00:42:00] skin. These are glycine rich. So like eating your pork RINs, sipping your bone broth, that's a great way to get your glycine stores up and to prevent more of a like dry desert approach for when the glyphosate hits.

If you're eating a glysine, excuse me, a glycine, a lot of, jeez, if you're eating a glycine rich diet, the glyphosate is not going to set up as much camp in your body. Mm-hmm. Or you're not gonna have as much residual absorption, if that makes sense. First, you kind of got some defense there by eating glycine rich foods.

And then furthermore, I think supplementing with ample glycine, and so I'm a big fan of using magnesium bis glycinate. For that. Um, and I call it a glycine push. It's like when they're actually supplementing with amp amounts of glycine, um, we can see on a cellular level that the body innately is like, oh, that's the one I want.

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna release this, this space holder, if you will, and that can help us to detox the glyphosate as well. I think beef gelatin has like 60% glycine in it, something like that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So it's like connected tissue, that's another great one. Tissue. [00:43:00] Totally. Yeah. So like making gummies or eating jello with, uh, beef gelatin would be great.

I think even like a beef protein isolate, I think is like 20%. Mm-hmm. So like, I mean, even like noble, like there's some supplementation there where it's probably beneficial to Yes. Well, and incorporate when you're incorporating like organs in a quality beef protein isolate, right? Mm-hmm. Yep. Um, because if it's like just from muscle meat, you're gonna get higher methionine and lower glycine.

Hmm. Um, but like right, the way y'all are doing it, you're gonna get higher glycine, which is super key. And, and that's that idea of, again, the loss of the snout to tail. Approach to eating protein mm-hmm. Has made us more glycine deficient. Mm. And I think that that's adding more issue with the glyphosate exposure.

Mm-hmm. I can't believe that correlation between glyphosate and glycine. Mm-hmm. I feel like 1% of people probably know that. Not even. Yeah. Yeah. It's really wild. Um, and so I've been like really pushing like, well if you can get one to two grams of glycine mm-hmm. I believe that that's a really good daily defense.

And uh, it's something I've been kinda speaking to offset. Yeah. It's so cool thinking that there's these [00:44:00] offsets out there as well, you know, like a. Like Brett said at the beginning of the podcast, like, there's so much just fearmongering out there, but there is a way to live in this like, you know, new, more industrialized world where we can just have one or two things that we think about on a day-to-day basis where it's like, all right, I'm gonna sup supplement with a little bit more glycine.

Or like, I'm just gonna take the precautionary measures to like, have more filtered water or whatever it is. Mm-hmm. To make sure that you're not getting that exposure. Um, and it can actually help. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I think that's so encouraging too, just to be able to like dissect the problem. Mm-hmm.

And like when I think about the full spectrum of what we talked about, it seems like. Getting outside, connecting with community supplementation with glycine, spirulina, chlorella. Yep. Um, not having your apple car play on every time you go in the car too, like just these basic but potent things where if you think about what that compounds to over a few years of doing that, it's, it's pretty amazing.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, absolutely. I think we need to get the billboard return. Return to God [00:45:00] or God frequency. What was it? God frequency. God frequency is for real. Yeah. I mean, we've all felt it, right? Yeah. And, uh, it's like, you know, I mean, I think there's many neuropeptides that come into that story. Again, I mentioned oxytocin before, which is like the, the bliss factor that we make in the pituitary of the brain.

But we think of that during like a good hug or like holding a baby or even petting an animal. Uh, and we're wired with just like we were talking in the, the last cut on. Intuitive eating. We're wired, I think to live intuitively, to know what feels good. Like we've heard and we've all felt it, like I had a bad gut feeling about that, or I don't feel good about that.

And it's not a true feeling, it's an energetic sensation. But yet when we lose sovereignty and allow technology to override our electromagnetic frequency, yes, we lose that intuition. We lose that powerful connection to spirit. Mm-hmm. Um, which. I think if there's too much noise and [00:46:00] you can't hear in the silence, your discernment is mucky.

Uh, and, and your life experience then becomes mucky. And so, you know, to live freely and fully. We were having a great conversation this morning over coffee with one of our friends and just talking about like how God seeks to commune with us. Yes. Like he's always, he's always there. He's always trying to connect with us and it's up to us.

To basically make that sovereign choice of communion or continuing what happened in the Garden of Eden, which is like that separation. And you know, I think God is like constantly seeking that from us. Mm-hmm. He wants that. Mm-hmm. That's like the space that he holds. And I believe deeply when problems arise that there are solutions that he provides.

Uh, they may not be in the way that we ask for them always, right? It's like, oh, that, okay, that's what you're trying to tell me. But even in nature, like, you know, we see like gammaderma, like Rishi mushroom growing in areas of high pollution or like the dandelion that's growing in your yard. Trying to fight against the [00:47:00] glyphosate that's saying like, Hey, your liver really needs me.

Yeah. You know, like we, if, if we're, if we're looking for it and we're in tuned and we're aware, uh, there are so many solutions at our fingertips, we just have to always seek what was, what the provider has given us. And, um, I think that we will prevail and be able to evolve to a lot of industrialized toxins, but it's going to take us partnering and fighting and seeking nature and, um, you know, the many opportunities that God has already provided.

And most importantly, not trying to play God, which is what we're seeing. Yes. Amplified. You know, and, and, um, I think that that's, that's a, a part of the process that we all need to be aware of. Yeah. That's why we love your content. We're doing these things to serve God, not play God. Yes. Yeah. Well, thank you so much.

It's been such a good part two of our conversation. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks Sally. My pleasure. Cool. Sweet.